able to match him in that environment where his brain power may not be that useful in that formal environment. >> look, where did mitt romney make his bone, so to speak. it was bain and company, not bain capital, as consultants. probably great with a power point and wonderful with presentation, boiling information down into nuggets and presenting it in a coherent fashion. i think he'd like to do that without anybody intervening or, you know, interrupting. when you see him on the campaign and he starts having to talk like a normal person and interacting with people, it almost always throws him and he starts saying who knows what. so i think, you know, he'll have his presentations but if you watched the interview last night with scott pelley, he still can't speak in depth about budget cuts, tax deductions he wants to limit, and so he's very good at that first index card, but how you get -- what he has to say for the second, third, fourth index card, it's still a problem for him. >> that's the moderator's challenge. get beyond the memorized material. no one can question on whether th